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Points of Divergence
Something I do from time to time is make a list of ideas I’ve had or culled from the AH board that might be interesting to writers looking for an idea. The following list is ideas that anyone can use; just send a copy to CTT. I'll update fairly frequently, placing the newest ideas at the top. What's New Changing Arms Supplier: In Japan, after their
opening, the Japanese were taught army tactics by the French, but then dumped
them in favour of the Germans after the French lost the Franco-Prussian war in
1871. What if a similar effect
happened in the Middle East after the six days war?
American (and some French) technology had beaten the soviet technology
with ease. If the Egyptians,
Syrians and Iraqis had all started buying arms and training from France, Britain
and America, what effect would it have had?
Would they have recognised a rump Israel as the price for that training? Germany Denies Zimmerman: The German Zimmerman was
– and I’d laugh at this if it was AH – dumb enough to admit to the
Zimmerman telegram. This launched
America into WW1. What if he’d
done the smart thing and claimed it was a British plant?
We would not only have the US NOT joining the war, but
being rather p***** at Britain. No
more loans, no arms sales, no nothing, plus massive anti-British feeling.
The Germans might even try buying supplies from the US, which the USN
would have to escort through the British blockade, which might lead to the US
joining Germany? Even without that,
can the British and French stop the 1918 German offensive without the US troops? What if China had managed to develop a modern army by
1900? The Chinese did attempt
to make a modern, well-equipped, army, but they suffered problems relating to a
desire to avoid foreign influence (understandable) and the perceived requirement
to keep the older troops, such as the bannermen, in service, despite them being
useless. But, if they had had a
proper army at the time of the Boxer Rebellion, they might be able to defeat the
invading armies and take back Hong Kong. What if the Chinese nationalists had retaken Hong Kong
in 1945? The British and the
Chinese engaged in a race to liberate Hong Kong from the Japanese.
Had the Chinese got there first, might they have attempted to keep it,
instead of allowing Britain back in? If
so, Britain would have found it very difficult military – and impossible
politically – to retake Hong Kong. What
effects might that have on the Chinese Civil War, or the absence of any
collection of education, liberty-loving, Chinese into communist China. What if the US had given the slaves land after the USCW?
The US made several promises to the former slaves and black freemen
regarding land, notably the ’40 acres and a mule’ promise, but regenged on
the promises and allowed the south to impose the ‘Jim Crow’ laws in exchange
for the south not stirring up more trouble.
But what if they had? The
former slaves would have had the chance to become a black power bloc in the
south and tackle racism properly, instead of allowing it to shift faces. What if the Confederate States broke up?
The CSA had several teething problems when it was being formed, but the
threat from the US made it imperative to stay together.
What if they’d all tried to fight the civil war on their own, instead
of as a group? Or, more
interestingly, what if some of the states had declared ‘neutrality’, not
fighting the north, but refusing to allow military forces to operate across
their territories. What if Iran was not invaded during WW2?
In WW2, the British and Soviets conspired to invade Iran in order to
evict German advisors and secure supply lines.
The invasion was fast, decisive and very powerful – the Iranian forces
were blasted through very quickly. But
what if a face saving deal had been made, or perhaps the Shah making a very firm
warning, or perhaps the US blocking the invasion plans.
This has interesting future effects, Iran may declare war on the axis
when the US enters the war and therefore get US lend lease and a guarantee of
its territorial integrity. An Iran
on the allied side frees up Germany to cause trouble with Turkey, as well as the
USSR, while it allows the axis to play on Arab nationalism far more than they
could in OTL. The post-war
implications are the most interesting; with the Shah in a stronger position with
a better army, he may escape being disposed by Islamic fundamentalists and
therefore become a stable nation in the Middle East. What if the Leninist takeover in 1917 had been defeated?
In Russia, the current rulers were aware that a coup of some kind was
coming, which made their lack of activity unexplainable.
What if they’d struck first and stayed in power?
Comrades Lenin and Stalin might end up dead, while Russia would be a
nominal player in the war until the end, not doing much, but playing a role at
the peace conference. That would
imply that they would keep at least the Tsarist part of Poland and demand a
share of German reparations. They
might also demand what they were promised in secret treaties, which means no
Turkey and perhaps no Iran. What if Italy had demanded payment in advance?
Italy was promised huge colonial concessions in exchange for her joining
the allies in WW1. The British and
French defaulted on their agreements, therefore leaving the Italians with a huge
death toll and little to show for it. What
if they had demanded payment in advance, such as part of Egypt and Algeria, a
share in the Suez Canal, German East Africa and so on.
There are two possible outcomes here; either the allies’ get mad and
Italy stays neutral, or Italy gets that territory and therefore something to
make the war worthwhile. That might
avert WW2, as Italy would have less cause to go Fascist and would have more to
occupy it in any case. Variants on the Monroe Doctrine: Something else I’ve been wondering about is variants on the Monroe Doctrine. Some ideas I did have included:
What if the North expelled the South?
Something that always struck me as odd about the ACW years was that
the North tolerated the south in the US, even through many of them dispired
slavery, they were willing to keep the south in the US with slavery kept intact.
But what if a northern version of the southern confederation decided to
tell to south to give up slavery – or leave?
The south had also been making secession threats, so what if the north
said, ‘OK, go then?’ What if the USSR refused over-flight rights for
satellites? The first
satellite, sputnik, over flew the US, which the US later claimed entitled them
to fly over the USSR. What if it
had not? Even if the first one flew
over South America, the USSR could claim that that only entitled them to
reprocity, not the US. In which
case, what will the soviets do when (if) the US starts sending spy satellites
over the USSR? Shoot them down,
like the U2 crisis? Or, what if the
US gives in? That would mean huge
holes in the development of satellite networks, and a huge setback to the space
program. What if the Space Treaties were not signed? The US had a huge advantage over the USSR by its system of commercial development, rather than everything being state-owned. The USSR managed to trick the US into hampering its space endeavours by agreeing to make the commercial ownership of space very difficult. But what if they had not?
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