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``A more perfect Union!''

``Na Brea Aointath''

British Politics in the 19th century, Schools edition 1970.

Gladstone’s success in passing the Irish home rule bill in 1886 cannot easily be explained.  Once Gladstone started speaking, the Tory and National Liberal opposition to Irish Home Rule simply seemed to melt away. Some have pointed to Gladstone’s inspired oratory and leadership, others to skilful work by the RIC in moving against the Irish militants. Which help bring calm to Ireland. The fact that Gladstone had watered down the powers of the Dublin parliament to little more then an advisory body helped win over Conservative opinion in both Ireland and Britain.  That said the passing of the Irish home rule bill is Gladstones' greatest Political achievement.  It finally brought Ireland Peace.

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The Irish Times January 10 1888.

Nearly a Hundred Thousand Dubliners lined Sackville Street, to catch a glimpse of their Monarch as Ireland Loyally welcomed Queen Victoria today to the state opening of the Irish parliament. This revived Irish Parliament it is hoped will lead Ireland into a new era of peace and prosperity with in the British Empire.

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20th century Irish history in focus, 1972

John Redmond’s appointment to the War cabinet as Minster for Ireland went mostly unnoticed throughout the War. Redmond managed to secure several concessions from Asquith, and later Lloyd Georges Government. Redmond skilfully managed to delay the passing of the conscription act in Ireland until the moment of Crisis in 1918 had passed. In practice the Irish conscripts were never needed.

 Yet in return Redmond had managed to win real powers for the Irish parliament for the first time.

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St Mary's Mental Hospital, Queens,New York City. 1920

Eduardo De Valeria is clearly delusional. He suffers from attacks of nerves. He has an unhealthy attitude to women. A suppressed Oedipal complex, and a tendency towards martyrdom. Hopefully he can now get the help he needs.

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New York, A Visitors Guide 1968.

Blenlablath, the place of the flowers, was the residence of Michael Collins during his tenure as Mayor.  It was here that Collins received Winston Churchill during his visit to the USA in 1941.  Collins mobilised the resources of the City of New York for the allied war effort long before the US entered the war.  The Son of Irish immigrants Collins worked his way up from poverty to become leader of the Worlds greatest city.

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Court Marshal of Colonel Thomas Barry Connacht Rangers, 1943.

General Perceval was adamant that we must seek terms with the Japanese. Colonel Barry was arguing that we could still win. After they went back and forth for a while. General Perceval in the end insisted that he would order the garrison to surrender.

It was then I saw Colonel Barry take out his side arm and shoot General Perceval.

Captain Atwell, Royal Australian Army

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D-DAY a brief History by C. Nuttall

It was only due to a forced march by the First Donegal, and Tyrone Volunteers, that Caen was taken. The First Donegal and Tyrone fought hand to hand battles with bayonet, and knife against strong German defence despite suffering horrific losses. Only a third of the regiment answered roll call the next day.  Thanks to their Irish troops the Allies took Caen.

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The Cork examiner August 11 1968

Dr Ian Kyle Paisley, the chairman of the Viewers of Ireland association, had to be escorted out of a meeting with Dr Connor Cruise O'Brien, the director general of the Irish broadcasting corporation. Dr Paisley attended the meeting in order to object to the IBC showing a new production, of the portrait of Dorian Grey.  Dr Ian Paisley is also the founder of the Save Ireland from Sodomy association

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BBC Radio Mexico 1970

``Sullivan to Brady, Brady to Best...Best shoots ...

He's done it! George Best has won the World cup for Ireland!''

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The Dublin Post 1980.

Pope John Paul 2nd met Garret Fitzgerald Governor General of Ireland today at Redmond  airport. This is the first visit by a Pope to Ireland.  The pope will meet the leaders of the Churches of Ireland. The Pope is expected to call for a return to the traditional Christian values of charity and restraint in a materialistic world.

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 Time OUT Magazine Belfast 1998 Summer

Belfast is the most cosmopolitan city in Ireland.  The capital of Ulster has an easy going vibe. It’s a place where there is always time for another pint. Ireland’s second largest city rivals Dublin in terms of entertainment and culture, but beats it hands down in terms of places to eat. Whether visiting one of the city’s Indian restaurants, established by Ugandan Asians fleeing Idi Amin or one of the city’s Bagel shops.  Try the Salmon lox, established by the many Jewish families who settled in Belfast after World War 2. Or try the local Vodka set up by veterans of the free Polish Army .Belfast is truly Irelands window on the world.

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Evening News January 12 2000

The RIC charged Mr Adams, a West Belfast Businessman on charges of perjury and attempted murder today. Mr Adams who was arrested in a joint FBI and RIC investigation, is expected to plead not guilty.  The FBI praised the work of their colleagues in the RIC

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Yahoo groups message 22341:  independent Ireland.

Can we imagine a scenario where Ireland managed to gain independence outside of the British empire?

Rurr, Rojh@hotmail2.com  

Yahoo groups message 22343 Independent Ireland.

Rojh2@hotmail wrote:

``Can we imagine a scenario where Ireland managed to gain independence outside of the British empire?''

The most ass backward thing I have ever seen.

 

1 How do the Irish beat the British army, the Royal Navy?

2 What about the Sectarian split?

3 What will this independent Irelands economy be based on?

Scott

ADMIN Yahoo groups message 22344 Independent Ireland

Only sensible  Alternate History scenarios please

Moderator.

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This Alternate history is predicated on an ASB Gladstone manages to pass the home rule for Ireland act into Law. In    However I have given the Irish a much weaker Parliament. Basically The Irish do get a Parliament but it has very few powers. However as time goes by and with the outbreak of war in Europe the Irish are able to bargain for real authority for their parliament. In this TL Redmond manages to delay the passing of the Conscription act until the war in Europe is more or less over.

Aside from that this is a piece of fun.  The references to Dev, and Michael Collins are intended to be humorous. In this Timeline Mrs De Valeria keeps her man, and Dev ends up enhancing the lives of the people of NYC rather then Dublin. 

I dont know whether it would have been possible for Collins to have become Mayor of NYC in the 1940s. Had the power of the Irish political machines passed?

Tom Barry was leader of the IRAs West Cork Brigade in the Anglo Irish war. In OTL he defeated Major Perceval  Battalion at Killshanba . Despite being outnumbered 10 to 1. He also spared Percevals life. This would come back to haunt Perceval after the fall of Singapore. When Barry sent an Insulting telegram to Perceval. Which enraged Churchill. 

What is more interesting about Barry. Is that he had been a British officer in the 1st world war. He had fought in Iraq. He appears to have been quite happy in the service of the Crown. In fact in 1918 it is believed that Barry hoisted the Union flag over Brandon. During the campaigning over the 1918 election.  However once Barry was released from service he then appears to have joined the Irish militants, simply because he enjoyed fighting.

I have the Irish take Caen on D-Day. Actually two things the Irish regiments in the British army, were know for was a penchant for hand to hand warfare, and rapid marches. Both I think would have come in handy. The First Donegal, and Tyrone volunteers, was a WW1 volunteer regiment.

George Best winning the World cup for Ireland.  Is quite likely. In This TL there will be no division of the Irish football associations. So like in Rugby Ireland will be able to draw its most able players. In OTL the one time a United Irish team did take the field they held the legendary Brazilian team of 1970

No Partition of Ireland. Sectarian violence dies off. The Southern Unionist stay where they are. Belfast becomes a jewel of the Atlantic rim. Belfast in this TL, gets  more immigration,  some Jews and Poles after WW2 and the Ugandan Asians. I did realise later that importing large numbers of Jews and Poles into Belfast, might not be conducive to that fair city's peace. But I figure the RIC have things locked down by now.

RIC still remain Irelands police force.

In the end, I find myself drawing the same conclusion that I came to in the death of Michael Collins.

``Thats not the way it was, but isnt that the way it should have been?’’

Rurr,

Rurr2@hotmail.com

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